Just a couple more clarifications if I may. Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions. The voice of reason during the transformation of Blynk
I can understand why device selector has not been migrated from Blynk legacy to IoT. Makes no sense to have selector for just one device? I believe that multiple devices will be coming back at some stage? If so can you tell me if device selector will come back also? I use it a lot and it is very efficient on saving widgets.
A number of us were encouraged to sign up early to the plus plan and we got an additional 5 devices on top of our 10 making a total of 15 devices. When you release the plan for 20 devices can I assume that if I upgrade my plan it will give me 20 plus our bonus of 5 giving us lucky ones 25 devices. I am hoping so as this would suit me comfortably and would still mean we have maintained our perpetual bonus for signing up early
Good for me. Itâs comparative to the cost of buying a device and what I would spend on Netfix annually.
This is a bit of a moving feast. I assume it is 120 per device and not over the entire 20 devices? 120 for me is what I would like if possible. Iâm not sure what limiting the number of widgets achieves when making a distinction between DIYer use and Business use. Itâs going back to the good old days of energy and I thought we had moved away from that?
And for clarity is it total widgets on the web dashboard or total widgets on the mobile mobile dashboard or both? The number of data streams I assume is not limited. In legacy we were able to use datastreams/vPINs without allocating a widget. This was great for saving and retrieving data not related to a widget. It looks like this is still possible with IoT as well?
Nope. Device Selector was a mistake. It made the code much more complex and error-prone. This is one of the technical decisions I personally regret.
Yes. It should work in that way.
100 per dashboard. So you can have 100 on web, 100 on mobile, 100 on page. That gives you 300 in total. More than enough for 99% of projects out there.
Not yet. It will be limited and will be similar to the widgets limit.
Hello Pavel and all dear BLYNKers! I will try to give my version of why everyone was so excited about this question. There are several possible reasons. The first is that the process of developing an electronic device can take more than one month, so itâs too early to draw conclusions on tariff plans. Those developers who planned to use it could simply not have time to use it. Like me for example. I have an implementation of my solution planned for January. I donât know yet exactly how many devices there will be. It depends on the client. Secondly, when I develop a device not for myself, but for sale, the issue of monthly payment will be very important. Paying for the service that I receive as a developer is quite understandable for me, but the person to whom I will sell the device will be very unhappy to pay monthly only for the fact that he will be able to use a mobile application - after all, this is an atypical situation for a Smart Home strategy. Or do you assume that the developer will pay for each client for life? This is unprofitable by default. Therefore, a one-time purchase for a certain amount is quite an acceptable solution in my particular case. And third, I am an active user and I have a lot of subscriptions to various services - for example, cloud disk, mail, music, etc. there are a lot of these subscriptions. And now Iâm already actively looking for ways to reduce the financial pressure by reducing the number of subscriptions. Each subscription is small, but their number makes this amount significant. As a result, consider me an opponent of subscriptions. I think this trend of hating subscriptions will only grow among people over time. I hope my thoughts will help development. I am a fan of BLYNK and wish him development and prosperity, but these sudden movements certainly do not benefit. It would be an indicator of careful attitude towards BLYNK users - to warn about changes in advance. And of course, we need a more understandable table of changes that need to be made to switch from the previous version. For each item. In detail. The table you propose is unclear. Remember - most of us are not programmers, which is why we use BLYNK. It is clear to all of us. This is his advantage. And we need to explain everything))) thank you for your attention, Yuri Polyakov
I think your statement kind of sums it up for BLYNK as well. A one time fee for a lifetime of support is not the best business model.
As some have said before. I am not super happy about the monthly subscription, but understand why it must be done. As I have heard one person mention though, I would probably be happier paying a monthly for the BLYNK 1.0 version, as it was a bit simpler and worked better for me. The web page, templates, and other new features are something that I did not need and seem more suited for businesses.
Honestly I donât see how new small IoT companies plan to do anything other than charge subscriptions. Unless the company has the funds/is heavily funded, or is extremely confident that they will continue to sell more of their product every year to ensure they can continue to cover ever increasing maintenance costs, I just donât see how itâs possible to survive.
My company is switching to subscriptions shortly because itâs the only way forward.
Sure customers donât want to pay more, but itâs either that or products will only come from large companies. Smaller companies just canât absorb the ongoing costs for ever.
I donât fault Blynk for changing their strategy as I see it as the only option currently.
As you may already know, we are working on a Blynk.Discovery plan which will be structured around one-time device activation fee.
PRO plan is designed for managed services and/or for higher-price products.
As for developer tools, Blynk is a service, not a product. Thus, every time the service is used there is a charge. The question is only one: how this price converts to the value it creates: save dev time, access devices remotely, storing data, etc. Only you can answer which subscription services bring enough value for you to keep them running.
Hello everyone,
For my part, itâs not the subscription system that bothers me. I find it very interesting to be able to test Blynk IOT with two devices, as Dmitriy says, it allows to test the interaction. What bothers me is that the free version is limited to a few very limited simple widgets, too bad we canât test them all as was the case before with Blynk Legacy. Perhaps it would have been more efficient to allow users to test the entire Blynk IOT but for a limited time?
As per my understanding, to use this feature one must have a pro subscription(correct me if i am wrong).
Lets assume Company A will sell 10 devices under Blynk.Discovery. Later if the company cannot sustain and chooses to drop out of subscription! What happens next ? What will happen to the customers and devices that are online?
Thank you, I think I will not be mistaken if I say that developers who do not work in this field all the time will be happy with the possibility of a one-time fee. Of course, you have the right to choose which way to go. I fully admit that non-professionals cause you more problems, which can make business impractical. I hope you have enough strength and time for this direction as well. Who knows, maybe these people are your future PRO clients :)))
by the way, I see on the forum and I myself have come across that sometimes the functionality does not work due to unavailability in a specific tariff plan, if this has not yet been done, please add hints so that people have more questions about the functionality and not organizational and administrative
@seby I think you misunderstand the concept of Blynk Discovery.
Itâs a feature that will be available for Pro subscribers and each device will have a one-time activation fee when they are activated via the discovery process.
If you are a Free users and want more than two devices then you currently have to upgrade to the Plus plan.
This topic was originally about reinstating the feature where Free users could buy a certain number of additional devices at $5 each. Blynk seem to have decided that this doesnât fit well into their business plan, which is about ongoing subscription revenue to provide a steady and reliable income stream as opposed to one-off pucrases which then require ongoing internal expenditure to maintain.
Thanks Pete, yes I misunderstood, I wanted to add 2 devices to the free plan (as I did initially with the purchase of 1 device) and I believe that the Discovery was about this.
Thank you.
